Wednesday, September 24, 2014

Wednesday Whine & Wine with Josephine Myles

Guest post and giveaway by Josephine Myles: Fisting Fun
Part of the How to Train Your Dom in Five Easy Steps Blog Tour

A while back, when I was asking for blogging suggestions for a previous title, one of my readers asked me the following:

Why do you rarely (if ever) get fisting in BDSM-themed gay romance? (Tim)



It wasn’t an appropriate blog post for Stuff which is a pretty vanilla book, but I found it an interesting question, especially as I’d only just popped my fictional fisting virginity in my then work-in-progress, How to Train Your Dom in Five Easy Steps.

For the record, there are a few well-known gay romance writers who have gone there—Heidi Cullinan is an excellent example and she recently blogged about it here—but I agree with Tim: fisting scenes are rare enough in BDSM romance for me to really sit up and take notice when I read one. And that’s not just in gay BDSM fiction either—I’ve read a lot of het erotica and erotic romance, and could probably count the number of fisting scenes I’ve read on the fingers of one... er, fist.




So why are we so squeamish when it comes to reading and writing about all those fingers being inserted into someone? There seems to be a perception that fisting is painful, yet BDSM fiction abounds with massive cocks and dildos, some of which have to be wider than the average man’s knuckles. And besides, a bit of pain shouldn’t be a bad thing if you’re writing a fistee who’s a masochist.

But done properly—slowly and with plenty of lube—fisting really shouldn’t be all that painful. It should be an intensely pleasurable, overwhelming experience. Perhaps a lot of people imagine the fister just shoving an entire clenched fist up where the sun don’t shine. Yep, that’s a recipe for pain, all right. In fact, the fingers are usually inserted tip first, the thumb tucked away against the palm. This means the hand tapers up to the widest point—the knuckles—and the fister will work his way up to that point gradually. It’s only once the entire hand is past the tight ring of muscle that the fister will make a fist (if indeed he actually does—it’s not compulsory).




So I think we should see fewer giant dildos and more fisting in gay romance. After all, what could be more erotic than your partner having a part of his own body inside you? The total trust and submission involved for the fistee makes for an incredibly hot and emotionally charged scene. Don’t believe me? Then why not try it out at home buy How to Train Your Dom in Five Easy Steps and read a fisting scene for yourself?


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Fisting: potentially romantic or plain icky? Discuss!

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The How to Train Your Dom in Five Easy Steps Blog Tour Giveaway!

I'm currently touring blog land, chatting about my latest Samhain Publishing release. Each post gives a unique insight into the book, and a lucky commenter will win a prize at every stop along the way. 

Winner's choice of either:

two of Jo's backlist ebooks

or 

a signed copy of Junk (or another backlist paperback, subject to availability) - shipping worldwide


 Check back for Friday's Free-For-All and your chance to win!





Sometimes the little head really does know best.


Jeff White’s needs are simple. All he wants is a submissive to help him explore the dominant side that his ex-girlfriend couldn’t handle. Problem is, inexperience in both dating and domming has resulted in a string of rejections.

What he needs is an experienced sub willing to show him the ins and outs of controlling a scene. Unfortunately, the only one willing to take him on is male, and Jeff is straight. One hundred percent, never-gonna-happen straight.

Easygoing painslut Eddie Powell doesn’t care that Jeff is younger, working class, and shorter. Eddie likes a bit of rough, and Jeff fits the bill perfectly. The trick will be convincing him to follow Eddie’s five-step training programme—which would be easy if Eddie wasn’t starting to have feelings for the rough-around-the-edges landscaper.

Once Jeff lays his hands on Eddie, things definitely get out of hand. But it’ll take more than hot, sweaty, kinky sex to persuade him to come out of the closet—especially to himself.



Warning: Contains a happy sub, a confused Dom, a high ratio of sex to plot, misuse of root ginger, and a suitcase of kink. Written in Jo’s usual exceedingly “English” English.



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English through and through, Josephine Myles is addicted to tea and busy cultivating a reputation for eccentricity. She writes gay erotica and romance, but finds the erotica keeps cuddling up to the romance, and the romance keeps corrupting the erotica. Jo blames her rebellious muse but he never listens to her anyway, no matter how much she threatens him with a big stick. She’s beginning to suspect he enjoys it.

Jo publishes regularly with Samhain. She has also been known to edit anthologies and self-publish on occasion.






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22 comments:

  1. I know Sean Michael had a fisting scene in one of the Jarhead books, it was probably the first fisting scene I'd read outside of fanfic. It was intense and emotional and I had to actually take a break after reading it. I agree there should be more fisting scenes but maybe some people still think it's taboo? Or like you suggested, they have completely the wrong idea of how it's done and how much of an emotional experience it could be for both parties.

    Great post Jo!

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    1. I haven't read the Jarhead books, but I can well belive SM would go there!

      I think you might be right about the taboo thing. Technically I could be prosecuted under UK obscenity law for writing a fisting scene, but since this law is hardly ever enforced in that way, I wasn't too worried. The law should clearly change, though.

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  2. I hadn't thought of fisting quite like that. (Spell check doesn't even like the word.) I'll have to read your book, because I'm not keen on trying that at home. ;)

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    1. Spell check needs some serious education!

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  3. Now that I think about it... I don't remember reading any fisting scene, only the usual fingering. It'd probably be a shock to me at first but it would be nice to read some good book that has it. Interesting post, by the way!

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    1. Thanks! Fisting scenes are rare, but it does seem like a natural progression from the old "1 finger, 2 finger, 3 finger, 4" thing that goes on in a lot of m/m romance.

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  4. Sean Michael has several fisting scenes that I can think of. I personally find it a very erotic & tantalizing concept. I think it involves a huge deal of trust & intimacy as well as vulnerability. If handled well by the writer, it can definitely add all those things to a book. I look forward to reading how you present it, Jo, tho I'm sure from the blurb there are bound to be a few giggles too!

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    1. If I'm the lucky winner, i hope this book is included in the prize options! It sounds like a must reead!

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    2. I'm glad you agree with me, SusieQ! And yes, there are definitely some giggles as well ;)

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  5. I've seen a few movies that have had fisting scenes and I have always flinched when watching them. (Yep it was gay porn.) I haven't ever read a book with a fisting in it though but I would though.
    sstrode at scrtc dot com

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    1. I can think of a few things I've seen in gay porn that made me flinch, but the fisting wasn't one of them! Glad you'd give it chance in book form :)

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  6. I vaguely remember a couple of erotic shorts with fisting on Cleansheets.com back in the day (there was one where the man was getting fisted by his female partner that was nicely told). I also saw a photo by (I think) Michael Rosen featuring an interracial male couple, where the suited man was fisting his naked partner. It was a very striking and pretty image, but it also appeared that they were using soap (or something that looked like it) for lube, which made me wince...the stinging, good grief!

    --Trix

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    1. Aagh, forgot: vitajex(at)Aol(Dot)com

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    2. Soap?! Noooo!!! Maybe it was some kind of lard or solid fat. That could look like soap.

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  7. I've read a number of books with fisting from authors like Sean Michael and Heidi Cullinan. I think that it reads very hot and amazing. The level of trust and intimacy that comes from it is fantastic. That being said, seeing pictures of it makes my squirm and a little uncomfortable for some reason. I love reading it though.
    jczlapin(at)gmail(dot)com

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    1. It's interesting how different media can change your perceptions of certain acts, isn't it? I also enjoy more in written form than I do in visual. Perhaps because I can get a sense of the emotions involved, and know that it's consensual.

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  8. I think all I've read is Heidi Cullinan and while I wasn't sure about it before I read it I ended up loving the book. I haven't watched anything with fisting because it's not something I would enjoy watching but that's just my reaction. :)

    aahickmanathotmaildotcom

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    1. Fair enough, Allison. Watching is definitely a different experience to reading. I prefer my porn in written form, I must say.

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  9. I haven't read any fisting scenes but would definitely give reading them a try. Not trying it though, lol.
    manning_J2004 at yahoo dot com

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    1. Yeah, definitely read about it before giving it a go. It's the right way round :P

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  10. Thanks for the insight into fisting. The few scenes I have read I did find to be romantic. The idea of the partner inserting their hand and the trust involved in the act seems to evolve into quite the intense lovemaking scenario. I am excited to read How to Train Your Dom in 5 Easy Steps and the fisting going on in there!
    aegger.echo(at)yahoo(dot)com

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    1. Thanks, Alaina. It's so nice to find some readers who agree with me. It might be an unlikely sounding place to find romance, but it can definitely be there!

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